apart from wondering every time I log on here what the difference is between US English and UK English - is it really 'vintage' racing, or is it historic racing** aha , see below, - a numbre of us were watching the traffic an dfaces passing by yesterday at the UK's Race REtro historic racing show near COventry, and trying to read the runes of racing in season '09...
will grids be busy, or very thin?
will anyone from that strange gang, 'the general public', pay to watch the racing?
are the top level race restoration and preparation companies as busy as they say they are?

i shall tell you what teh cocnlusions are once we have been back at the show for day 2
meantime, any ideas?

Vintage in US -E means anythimng prior to about 1995 - whereas 'vintage' in UK - E, specifically means pre-1945
Historic in Uk - E is the way we have come to distinguish ourslves from vintage, and is specifically limited to 1945-185 (when, according to the FIA, 'historic racing' finishes...) Veteran for UK - E speakers, means the period pre First W War, so we have 1/. Dawn of time to 1914 - Veteran 2/. 1918-1945 - Vintage and 3/ 1945 to 1985 - Historic



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Comment by Alexander Davidis on April 3, 2009 at 9:18am
Being of both worlds myself I know the dilemma. And while trying to title and/or describe my films correctly this issue has come up often. I end up using the word "classic" a lot, as it seems to be understood by most.
Comment by Miha on March 17, 2009 at 5:10pm
I absolutely agree with Stephen´s coment. As there are units for temperature C and F, for lenght m and feet, so there are different words for the same idea and the same word for different ideas. The essence is to understand allways the meaning behind the appearence and based on love.
Comment by Stephen Page on March 14, 2009 at 12:18pm
I have the great privilege of growing up in England and living in America.
In America, most consider any car over 25 years old "Vintage" or "Classic".
I love being British and I return to England 2-3 times a year (for the Goodwood Revival and Ascot amoung other great English traditions).
I love my English heratige and honour the UK & European definitions correctly stated above by Conor and Christopher.
In this case I suggest that we agree to disagree, but remain united by our common love of cars and racing.
It is our great ambition to unite like minded souls globally on this site.
Thank you to all our members for the part you play in growing our community.
Warmest regards - Stephen Page
Comment by Conor O'Brien on March 14, 2009 at 10:28am
I think this question is going to be very difficult to resolve as the VRL expands worldwide, which it is doing nicely at the moment. Vintage to most people outside the US would be 1918 - 1945 and to Europe and other parts of the world cars that are Historic would be a more used term for the sorts of vehicles that are generally raced world wide. I can see that there will be a huge resistance on behalf of the US to Change. The only solution that I see is for two sister sites to exist alongside each other, US/Vintage , Europe and rest of the World/Historic. Historic has a much more meaningful sound to it in that they are historic cars, whereas Vintage means very very old! I am sure this question will continue.

I look forward Chris to hearing your conclusions on the who will race and who will pay this season. Don't forget the Aston Lightweights if you need a really exciting race as part of your Masters Series.



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